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BBS to Robert - Divine Nature

 

Hello, Robert. :-)
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I'm starting to feel like someone who is playing several different games of chess at the same time. Many people are now responding to my various statements, and since it generally takes me about an hour and a half to compose a comprehensive response I find myself simply running out of time in attempting to keep up with them. I do have other demands on my time in my life.
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I will respond to you now because our conversation came before many of the others.
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ROBERT:   If you'll look at my syllogism, I do not use the phrase "divine nature," but rather "God's Nature." It is this to which I referred when I used the term "divine nature."
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BBS:  As may be, the use of the term "divine nature" by many of the commentators I have cited is not a reference to the nature that belongs to God alone, nor does the NT use it in this sense, nor have I.
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ROBERT:  Of course, what I'm really trying to get at is what is it that makes God God? There must be some characteristics that make Him God, and I submit that these characteristics are inherent in His Nature - or, put another way, that His Nature is the sum total of these characteristics (and, undoubtedly, others, which God did not choose to reveal to us).
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BBS - If this is the case, then Jesus does not have God's nature, since he lacks omniscience and omnipotence.
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As to your analysis of the use of "koinonos" in 2 Peter, if I understand you correctly you are saying that it refers to the fact that pre-resurrection humans who have received salvation in Christ are thereby able to avail themselves of Christ's divine nature and thereby avoid (although not perfectly) behaviors which displease God. Your evidence and arguments on this point seem entirely sound to me and I will have to conform my understanding of this passage to them. Thank you for taking the time and effort to enlighten me on this matter.
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I am still left with the fact that in the resurrection we "shall be changed" and "like unto angels". Angels are divine beings ("gods") having divine nature, even though lacking the attributes which make God God. I find it reasonable to infer that beyond the explicit distinction noted in scripture that we will not marry in our resurrected state (possessing "spiritual bodies" rather than physical ones) this suggests that we will also become divine beings, as angels, yet not God. I suspect that you will disagree, and perhaps again you will persuade me that this idea is inconsistent with scripture.
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Also, just off the top of my head, it seems to me that Jesus is a unique being and that even though the divinity possessed by angels ( and possibly to be possessed by us in the resurrection) is different in ways from his, this does not rule out the possibility that his divinity, though like God's, is still different than God's.
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We still have the fact that Jesus lacks at least two of the defining attributes of God, without which (it seems to me) he cannot BE God.
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While the commentators I cited in my article allude to Jesus being divine, like God, etc., he clearly (or am I wrong about this?) does not possess some of the attributes which make God God.
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Perhaps now is the time to consider this point.
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:-) BBS

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